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decreasing surface temperature

#1 Unread post by layeghi2001 »

hello
I run ROMS model on PERSIAN GULF and OMAN SEA for 5 years.each tracer shows good behavior in the first year, but after it, the temperature reduces and , for example, SST reaches to 15 deg. do you have any idea for solving this problem?

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Does SST go bad before deeper temperatures? What are you using for surface temperature fluxes?

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I USE CODES05 for meteorlogical forcing by ROMSAGRIF scripts in matlab.

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I have problem to use matlab scripts for producing input files. I work with matlab 2012. may you help me for making the correct input files? if you want, i will send a sample of model output for this run.

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No, I don't want your files. You didn't answer if the surface temperature is going bad first or if there's a problem with your surface heat fluxes. Are you applying heat fluxes without the dQdSST term? That should be a FAQ by now... you can search in these forums for dQdSST and why it's important.

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I saw the file get_dqdsst.m. it is :
function dqdsst=get_dqdsst(sst,sat,rho_atm,U,qsea)
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%
% Compute the kinematic surface net heat flux sensitivity to the
% the sea surface temperature: dQdSST.
% Q_model ~ Q + dQdSST * (T_model - SST)
% dQdSST = - 4 * eps * stef * T^3 - rho_atm * Cp * CH * U
% - rho_atm * CE * L * U * 2353 * ln (10) * q_s / T^2
%
% B. Barnier, L. Siefridt, P. Marchesiello,
% Thermal forcing for a global ocean circulation model using
% a three-year climatology of ECMWF analyses,
% J. Marine Sys., 2005, 6, 363-380
%
% Input parameters:
%
% sst : sea surface temperature (Celsius)
% sat : sea surface atmospheric temperature (Celsius)
% rho_atm : atmospheric density (kilogram meter-3)
% U : wind speed (meter s-1)
% qsea : sea level specific humidity
%
%
% Ouput:
%
% dqdsst : kinematic surface net heat flux sensitivity to the
% the sea surface temperature (Watts meter-2 Celsius-1)
%
% Further Information:
% http://www.brest.ird.fr/Roms_tools/
%
% This file is part of ROMSTOOLS
%
% ROMSTOOLS is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
% it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published
% by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License,
% or (at your option) any later version.
%
% ROMSTOOLS is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
% WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
% MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
% GNU General Public License for more details.
%
% You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
% along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
% Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston,
% MA 02111-1307 USA
%
% Copyright (c) 2002-2006 by Pierrick Penven
% e-mail:Pierrick.Penven@ird.fr
%
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%
% Specific heat of atmosphere.
%
Cp = 1004.8;
%
% Sensible heat transfert coefficient (stable condition)
%
Ch = 0.66e-3;
%
% Latent heat transfert coefficient (stable condition)
%
Ce = 1.15e-3;
%
% Emissivity coefficient
%
eps = 0.98;
%
% Stefan constant
%
stef = 5.6697e-8;
%
% SST (Kelvin)
%
SST = sst + 273.15;
%
% Latent heat of vaporisation (J.kg-1)
%
L = 2.5008e6 - 2.3e3 * sat;
%
% Infrared contribution
%
q1 = -4.d0 .* stef .* (SST.^3);
%
% Sensible heat contribution
%
q2 = -rho_atm .* Cp .* Ch .* U;
%
% Latent heat contribution
%
dqsdt = 2353.d0 .* log(10.d0) .* qsea ./ (SST.^2);
q3 = -rho_atm .* Ce .* L .* U .* dqsdt;
%
% dQdSST
%
dqdsst = q1 + q2 + q3 ;


may I ask You that how to optimize this formulation to better answer of the model?

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